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Consternation, Especially for new comers
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Author:  gofar99 [ 08 Jun 2018, 13:21 ]
Post subject:  Consternation, Especially for new comers

Hi Everyone, A thought occurred to me a while earlier ( :eek: ). It may seem to new comers that some of us long timers argue over various points in the forums. I don't see it that way. In this complex field if we all agreed then there would be no purpose in doing much of it.. just write a cook book and do things that way. Stuff all the parts in a pan and bake for 2 hours at 400 degrees. Magic, out pops a finished piece of gear (right). I may be too old to teach new tricks, but not so fuddy duddy to not accept that there is often more than one way to do something. I think in this area I can speak for most folks on these forums, particularly ones that have been around for a while. Everyone wants to make the diy audio experience the best they can for everyone. Further they want to encourage new folk in their pursuits in diy, hopefully creating the next generation of "long timers". If it seems at times there are disagreements in how to do something it is likely because we each have different experiences and somewhat different approaches to solving the problems that face all diyers. Cost, complexity, what we are trying to accomplish, skill level, background knowledge and purpose are just a few of the differences. I personally can only provide insight on things I have done or are such a standard practice that we can agree upon (like ohm's law). I rather reluctantly critique on other folks projects or designs that I don't have related experience with. I do make suggestions if asked based on things I have done. What my message to the community is...don't get hung up on the times when some things seem contradictory. Keep pushing forward until you get the answers or guidance you need to make it possible for you to be successful in diy audio. 8-)

Good listening

Author:  Geek [ 08 Jun 2018, 21:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: Consternation, Especially for new comers

Well said, Bruce! :thumbsup:

Author:  M. Gregg [ 21 Sep 2019, 04:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Consternation, Especially for new comers

Geek wrote:
Well said, Bruce! :thumbsup:


I remember a long time ago starting out on DIY electronics and reading things like practical wireless.
I remember not having enough understanding as a school boy and not being able to get some things working.
It was frustrating at times but interest in the hobby and some friends the same age also having problems.
We worked together we got some things working and not others.
It was this interest that seemed to drive me on to keep going.
This eventually took me into engineering.

I remember a guitarist in one engineering company I worked for said he had made a small preamp to go inside his guitar but no matter what he did it didn't work he showed me the circuit in a magazine and his very well soldered vero board. Instantly I could see the circuit in the magazine was wrong. A simple mistake the output was not from the correct pin of an op amp. I said connect that wire to the capacitor on pin 6. He didn't believe me. I saw him a week later he did the mod and it worked. He said how could you know that! The point is that its a very hard place to be if the circuit you are using is wrong but you don't know it. It's great when there is someone to ask then again it depends on individuals experience.
We all start somewhere and we never stop learning :cold: The more I learn the more I realise I don't know or understand.
Knowing something is not the same as understanding something<< :beer:
One more precious gem is don't assume everyone knows as much as you do and accept that you are only an apprentice of life.
If I'm wrong then so be it I wish I understood more, But sometimes its better not to know... :|

Everyone is an expert (many don't realise they are) at something from painting/design/motherhood etc.
You know how frustrating it is when you try to get a good finish on wood and someone takes the brush out of your hands and does it in seconds after you have been trying all day :D
The child that goes to sleep in its mothers arms, the know it all that actually does know it all and is right :D
Its such a great learning curve what a boring world it would be with out it.

M. Gregg

Author:  M. Gregg [ 21 Sep 2019, 05:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: Consternation, Especially for new comers

I must add this,

knowledge is a strange thing, it has wonders beyond imagination.
But can be so dark and terrifying the reason is you cannot unknow something once it is known.
Or unlearn something once it is learnt.

But you already know that. :D

M. Gregg

Author:  gofar99 [ 21 Sep 2019, 20:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Consternation, Especially for new comers

Hi Everyone, Lots of good thoughts above. Anyone with a problem should keep asking about it until it is clear. I have worked with some folks on their projects every day for months at a time. No problem as long as they sincerely want to learn. I have no interest in folks that won't listen.

Good listening

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